Implying ganking unarmed ships with impunity in highsec is 'fleet warfare'. Aye, truly on par with low and null slugfests - CODE is the new Rooks and Kings.

Thanks for making me chuckle.

This has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read, and I've been on TEST forums.

Most of EvE revolves around unintended events. The biggest battle in EvE's history occurred because someone forgot to pay the rent. Hell, MANY of the biggest battles have occurred because of unintended occurrences.

If CCP didn't find it acceptable, it could be changed. It hasn't been, ergo, they don't find it unacceptable, ergo, it isn't unintended.

Just because ccp has yet to address an issue doesn't mean they wont. I would be shocked if this loop hole isn't closed, as it is clearly unintended, if you look at it from an unbiased opinion.

Yes! 250mm Light's, I think they were Carbide (I was going to go for Gallium, but there weren't enough on Dodixie's market last night, and the next step up was around 150-200k each). I tried using Fusion S, since it had the most explosive damage, and pods look like they have the lowest over-all EHP vs. explosive.

The character's combat skills are, quite literally, whatever the character started with, plus Destroyers I.

I'm considering doing a dual-character train on her to get her skills up, and maybe go after other ships, as well, instead of just pods.

But when people hide in station all day and are only around for half a minute, then there's nothing that can be done to fight them.

Indeed undock warp to zero click overheat press f1 is very hard...

Right. "shut it" about something that is against forum rules to openly discuss beyond mention. Real tough talk.

I'll provide evidence for such activities right after you provide proof that the freighters are putting no effort into the game by auto-piloting. Perhaps you are the one who should "shut it".

Yeah, some corpmates were trying to get me to suicide all my characters and sell them a full set the other evening.

Roc Tazinas will say Hi from Sol! ;)

...exhibiting bot aspirant behavior...

To clarify im not talking about defending against gankers (that is pretty easy) :P im talking about viable ways to offend known gankers before they actually gank :D

How? They hide in station all the time, until they strike.
When they strike, it's too late.

There's nothing one can do against these lesser people,
as long as they can hide from everybody.

How? They hide in station all the time, until they strike.

What kind of comment is that?

Instaundock.
Warp to target.
Strike.
Dock.


If you don't quite get it, try to visualize it and tell me how it's possible to know where they go,
and how it's possible to be there before them. Even if that was doable, it'd still not help at all.


Any scenario people have come up with so far are completely disconnected from ingame reality.

Can you do better?

Yeah, you kinda do. It's pretty hard to tank them in any kind of ship you would fly as a suicide ganker.

Yes, they can be tanked in, for example, a T3 or a command ship or some battleships. But who the **** is going to fly one of those as a suicide ganker? You'd have to be insane.

And if you mean evading them, no, you can't do it in a battleship either, unless you fit it to align more quickly than is normal.

But if you're going to stay in open space with a neg ten sec status, you have to be in a pod where anyone who happens along can pop you if they feel like it.

So what do gankers actually do? You use a neutral Orca, or have someone bring you a ship in a safe spot, where you sit with your pod until the attack order is given.

And it's easier to just dock up until the time is right.




You want to know what's really dumbing down the game? The kind of player who wants to have NPCs do their jobs for them. The kind of player who thinks they can abandon their own responsibility to defend themselves.


But you can't cry about not being able to attack suicide gankers since they always dock up, and then vigorously defend the mechanic that causes them to dock up in the first place. Look past your own nose.

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

There's space for us all in New Eden.

I'm taking donations as of NOW!

Stop staring at my boobs! xD

For the first time, I am seriously considering leaving nullsec and starting up a freighter protection service. It seems like the environment is right for a lucrative venture to be made of this.

Catalysts are crap for ganling under sentry fire with people around.
Thrashers, Mallers, I'll send you a list?
Modules too?
Delivery?

Oh and remember that people say logistics is such a huge issue and everything... *laughs*

Price? (:

You all need to be burned alive in your pods...

Hey Mag! Glad to see you around.

I don't get this guy. He's asking to be bumped off the belt.
I wanna see him mine that way...

So you were wrong.
Glad we sorted that out.

Look at it another way. A random Freighter jumps into system, Dominixes start to bump him. I decide to engage the Dominix. Now are Concord coming to protect the Freighter? or are they coming to protect the Dominix?

Well I have a few tattoos myself, so I do admire even the in-game designs.

Solecist has tattoos? Where?

wtf is this actually about?

Just don't use disposable alts and noobships to spawn CONCORD then ...

It's not forcing gameplay on anyone. It's just pointing out the route you need to take if you want to do what so many of you claim you want to do. If you want to get back at gankers, go shoot them. Otherwise, keep right on being a sheep.

Didn't freighters get some lowslots recently that gives them the ability to field a pretty nasty tank? I also recall some mining barges getting some combat buffs.

What do you expect CCP to do? Nothing?

No, it's not, lol.

Carebears cry all the time about how they want to get back at gankers. Telling them the way to do it is not forcing them to do anything. It's just answering an open aired question. Granted it's just like a carebear to cry about getting the answer they wanted, but still.

Ok, that's a non-sequitur at this point since the method of fitting and the number of players involved in hauling have no relation. But if we're going down this path anyways, are your own haulers setting an example by running with 10+ support through highsec to counter potential 80 man gank squads?

Most importantly, why is it so bad to do the smart thing, not tie up a dozen pilots and simply bypass the blockade? Cause it only requires one character? Why should we waste effort?

It was the standard. Past tense. It was the standard until the freighter pilots' whimpering cries reached critical mass to have the devs give them the ability to fit a tank like they claimed they wanted.

Now, we have a point to make.

This is why these forums badly need a "dislike" button.
Because I'm far too lazy to report personal attacks.

This, i mean seriously hypocrisy is off the charts.

The amount of **** I had to read by these people makes me want to join CODE,
just to make a point (I'm for hire for PR btw) and to blow the freaking **** out of them.
The hating carebears. Forever. And it's good for the game as a whole too!

Aha. I had no idea you started suicide ganking.

Are you trying to seduce me? ;)

Awww and I thought you're trying to hit on me... :/

While I do not know what his (or CODE's) motivations are, I do know from experience:
When carebears take catastrophic losses in highsec, there is a chance they'll quit EVE forever.

That's how I measure success.
Nasty carebears unsubscribing and F'ing off forever, preferably in a shower of rage and tears.
Less carebears = less whining/lobbying for an EVE Theme Park in highsec and depraved ranting in local.

By that reasoning their sec status should increase towards 0 every time they get "punished" by CONCORD.
It's simply a gap in the system - minus10 well-known criminal, ganker extraordinaire, the-bane-of-miners, etc. etc. enters the high-security space protected by CONCORD. "Hello citizen! Have a safe and productive day!"
It's like saying Osama Ibn Laden could regularly travel on holidays to the US with the government's approval.

(post which will eventually get liquidated, along with every post quoting it - so not quoting it, take note ISD Heydrich when you chop another 20 pages off this thread.....)

So the customers decided which players to drive out of the game, wonder what CCP thinks about that. If it was my company I'd be kind of concerned if that was happening.

Bad customers, that's up to CCP to decide not the players.

[quote=Spectral Tiger]


So like any other regular carebear, what you're doing is expecting EVE to be like every other MMO that you play. It isn't, and will never be.

You can't imagine the amount of assholes I have to deal with on a daily basis,
just because they lack any manners or decency and think they can own me just because of my looks!

And it's not only men who act that way! Horrible! :O

I can do BOTH! :D

Is it possible that population is down because it's summer in the northern hemisphere? That happens every year-- summer and population decrease. Not sure why. I doesn't make sense that Eve players would be out in the sun, swimming, barbecuing, throwing Frisbees, etc. There must be some other explanation.

Why?

Goldiiee! :D
You're still around! :D

You never talked like that about me ..............

lol I can't believe you people are falling for her. xD

Personally I can't see any philosophical difference between a player that sits and watches red dots get blown up by a white dot and someone that sits on a gate scanning an endless stream of ship waiting to turn it into a red dot for them to blow up. Both are mind numbing exercises in an attempt to get more ISK to play more EVE, to get more ISK to pay more EVE, to get more ISK to play more EVE...

Yeah one is without a doubt the superior species of player, just can't tell from my Ivory tower, eyesight has gone to pot from shooting to many red dots.

First sentence: Now I understand why you don't react to me. I had no idea you go "that" way.

Second sentence: What??

Let me help you out with a more insightfull description.

Carebears suffer from an inflated ego due to collecting fake achievements killing NPCs.
They believe they are heroes (depends on the game) and have a completely fake self esteem.

This thread is full of nice looking ladies... *sighs*

Uhm ...

To be honest ...


You looked good before ... and you look good now, but differently.

I disregard the facial expression for the form of your face and the colors here, btw. (:


Cute. :D

This thread is now about portraits. Take that carebears.

If people really believe that removing the faction police will suddenly
make all these gankers not hide in station all day ...
... and encourage players to hunt and kill them ...

... you'll probably have a bad time once this propaganda bullshit about the faction police stops ...
... and they are removed from the game.

Waffle

. dispite gankers and others who think PvP should reign alone in EvE.

Probs misunderstood then.
I never look at isk/hr though... i value fun.

If it takes me two hours for ganking 100mill and I have fun,
then I still win. Greed is a horrible thing.

Oh and you're the experienced one when it comes to ganking in a vexor, iirc.

I do hope you have a scanning and ganking permit...........

Hey!

Weren't you banned or am I not up to date? :/

Also ... cute! :D

D:

YOU HATE ME!!! D:


D:

The really weird part is that it reads like I am an actual criminal.

on about killboard stats ie killing hulk with a catalyst cost to kill ratios

You have it arse backwards, my friend. It's not up to CCP to do for you what you can do for yourself with equal access to the same tools that everybody else has.

I'm always happy to educate new players and help them understand the game.

you are a new player. solstice is not.

That's not banworthy. Your persistent trolling and abuse, on the other handGǪ

Why not stick to arguing the points in the thread?

Removal of suicide ganking would be good as it would force these risk averse players into doing actual pvp instead of preying on other players common lack of knowledge of concord response times.

More and more players are turning away from pvp everyday and becomming suicide gankers because its infinitely easier and more profitable and can be done within the relative comfort of high sec with no significant costs or penalties.

I can not resist writing this.

You are all delusional!

As I have barely ganked anything lately
there is no evidence that ganking continued at all!

It died with me!

Rest is just CCP pretending it still happens and that guy above is
in fact
a CCP ALT!


*sibs tea*

Snipe for sexy pic....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/i0c63xav96gz146/asdfsdf.png?dl=0



This thread really needs me. ^_^

Kaarous ...

He simply writes what people don't want to read and what keeps them posting.
I bet if it was WoW he would rant about how the lack of suicide gankers is killing the game.

I never played WoW so no idea. :p

Some fine posting right there. Pic related.

Kaarous, stop eating his bait already!

Take a step back and look at yourself!